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Re: Recommended books

Post by Cheese » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:11 pm

"Brian Kingcome is a good read, 'though not your traditional fighter memoire."

Yep,agree there.Would like to have read more about his"actions" but not a mention of it.Glad I got it and read it but doesn't really go to anywhere near top of the list.I don't mean that in a bad way,as most books I have picked up over the yrs that cover this period,BK always seems to crop up somewhere...
Stapme next :D

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Re: Recommended books

Post by Jacko » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:22 pm

Wing Leader by Johnnie Johnson . Brilliant just finished gave a good insight to what tactics a squadron leader and wing leader need to consider. Ypu will allways find me up sun from now on
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Jab » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:48 pm

Who is this "Sun" bloke?
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Post by Jacko » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:40 am

Jab wrote:Who is this "Sun" bloke?
mmm a tacky 601 jape :)
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Hunter » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:12 pm

Just thumbed through a new book in the library 'Darwin Spitfires' about the air defence of Australia 1941 -1943. Quite a thick tomb, so decided I couldn't do it justice at the moment.
However the skim was interesting - The Mk V Spits had constantly had problems with their cannon and the deflection shooting was appaling. They also seemed to lose as many again in engine failures and fuel outages.
both sides massively over claimed the Japs claimed 101 kills, actual combat losses 22. The Brits knocked down 10 zeros and 15 Bombers.

However in the end the Japs seemed to consider that the light wasn't worth the candle and switched to night raiding. So I guess we won.
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Jacko » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:24 pm

I enjoyed this book "I flew fo the Fuhrer" memoirs of a Luftwaffe pilot. Heinz Knoke. A real survivalist story including accoumts of attacks on th massed B-17 raids
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Jacko » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:30 am

The Big Show
By Pierre Clostermann.

I would say that this is one of the best books I have read written by combat pilots. As many of you will know he was one of the top scoring Aces for the RAF. Joine the RAF at the age of 19. He has the skills in writing of a journalist which shines through his descriptions of combat action and life.

On August 27th 1945 he took his Tempest "Grand Charles" for a final free flight.

I had taken him high up in the cloudless summer sky, for it was only there that I could properly say goodbye. Together we climbed for the last time straight towards the sun. We looped, once perhaps twice, we lovingly did a few slow, meticulous rolls, so that I could take away in my finger tips the vibration of his supple, docile wings.

And in that narrow cockpit I wept, as I shall never weep again, when I felt the concrete brush against the wheels and with a great sweep of the wrist, dropped him on the ground like a cut flower


After surviving 5 years of air war I can well imagine how he felt at that time.
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Tom » Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:16 pm

It's well written but he does come across as a wally. I also suspect his experiences have been tarted up. I've read a few others recently.

Test Pilot - Neville Duke but it's a bit dry.
They gave me a Seafire - Crossley
Nine Lives - Deere

Main issue with a lot of these is that the prose is a bit meh.
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Dutch » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:09 pm

Tom wrote:Main issue with a lot of these is that the prose is a bit meh.
Agreed.

Once you've read a few pilot bios they do tend to get a bit samey, & not always briliantly written. I've kinda given up on reading them for now.

Having said that, if you enjoyed Clostermann Jack, try 'Flames in the sky' if you can find it. Short (true) stories, but fascinating.

I'll have a browse & post a few that have stood out for me.

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Re: Recommended books

Post by Jacko » Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:45 pm

I am now turning my attention to Red Star vs Swastika
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Hunter » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:50 pm

Closterman a must read. Fiction as I have mentioned before 'The Hunters' by Robert Salter. Non flying 'War' by Sebastian Junger.
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Tom » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:06 am

Messerschmitt Roulette is a good/well written read. Ok it's written by a Hurricane pilot but it's about the tactical reconnaissance role in the desert.
In selecting the motto... 'all for one and one for all'... I have done so because it expresses what should be the creed to every Fighter Pilot. Never forget that you are an essential cog in the wheel, and if you break or fail it will let down your brother pilots, and the grimness of war allows for no such weakness.

Air Vice Marshal Saul in the foreword to 13 Group's 'Forget-Me-Nots for Fighters'

"They fly Hurricanes, isn't it?, them's shit planes for remtards on free dinners..."
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Jacko » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:42 pm

Anyone suggest a book for the Battle of Moscow or earlier
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Re: Recommended books

Post by Tom » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:55 pm

There aren't many Jacko, mainly sections of autobiographies. The purely factual tomes are ok but not that interesting to read.

The obvious series is Black Cross Red Star but volume 1 is stupid money and the re-publication has been put back.

Air War over Russia is available at Amazon for 15p plus postage and from memory there is a pilot recollections book by VVS pilots that covers Barbarossa to Moscow.
In selecting the motto... 'all for one and one for all'... I have done so because it expresses what should be the creed to every Fighter Pilot. Never forget that you are an essential cog in the wheel, and if you break or fail it will let down your brother pilots, and the grimness of war allows for no such weakness.

Air Vice Marshal Saul in the foreword to 13 Group's 'Forget-Me-Nots for Fighters'

"They fly Hurricanes, isn't it?, them's shit planes for remtards on free dinners..."
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Re: Recommended books

Post by LittleJP » Tue May 03, 2016 12:16 am

I've recently found L. Deighton's Fighter, covering the Battle of Britain in a secondhand bookstore for a few dollars. Should be a fun read. Been scouring the secondhand bookstores in the walkable/busable area in my new town for anything on aviation, so I'll hopefully find a few gems.

The only other one that really caught my one so far was one on the German Air Force from WW1 to 2, but I gave that a miss, as it seemed pretty short on specifics.

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