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Re: Recommended books

Post by Silk » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:28 pm

Just ordered a new book ready for Bodenplatte goodness. I'll let you know if it is any good.


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Post by Sparky » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:07 am

Moggy wrote:
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Well it's funny you mention how lethal the camel was and rightly so. ...
And to add to what Moggy rightly listed, at full-fuel takeoff the Camel CG was aft of the limit for flight. Also, it had to be held nose down. If the pilot looked at the mixture, for instance, and didn't actively hold the Camel's nose down after takeoff and during low climb, it's nose up, stall, whip into a spin and crash.
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Post by Nummy » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:04 pm

Highly Recommended:
The Imago, the novel by John Strider Nation,
Currently with Random/Penguin House in New York City.
Not an airplane in it, but compensated for by three drop-dead gorgeous gals,
each in her time called 'The Most Beautiful Woman in Florence':
Kati, media darling of modern Florence.
Simonetta, the model for Botticelli's 'The Birth of Venus' (1486 or so)
Isolde, a former star of the European 'Blue Movies' of the 70's.

Okay chaps, it's the long absent Nummy, world's oldest TP,
currently off Ops, who now explains, as he will have to some day
where he has really been and what he is really doing with his time
these past years.

Nummy's 'nom d' plume' is John Strider Nation.
In September, 2017, based on three sample chapters and a
plot outline for his novel, 'The Imago'---Latin for 'image'--
submitted some months earlier, an editor at Penguin/Random House asked for the full manuscript.
It has passed 'First Reader' and is now with 'Second Reader'
and if it passes here, it will likely be published and available in
bookstores perhaps as early as 2019, more likely 2020.

This admission is premature, I was not going to reveal it
until the contract was signed--and it could still fail--
but seeing Tom's invitation, combined with my own sense of
endless and shameless self-promotion--well, chaps, it's out of the
bag and you now know about as much as I do.

If it goes, I'm moving to Tuscany.
All TPs invited over for a big whoopdoodle.
Cheers, El Nummo
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Post by Silk » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:19 pm

Nice to hear from you Nummy mate. I would wish you luck, but I'm positive that you won't need anything as mundane as that

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Post by Tom » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:42 pm

Fingers crossed for you Nummy!
In selecting the motto... 'all for one and one for all'... I have done so because it expresses what should be the creed to every Fighter Pilot. Never forget that you are an essential cog in the wheel, and if you break or fail it will let down your brother pilots, and the grimness of war allows for no such weakness.

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Post by Hunter » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:17 am

Wow I'm impressed. Not only that any TP could string more than three words together but that you have got such a prestigious name as Random House to show serious interest.

As for moving to Tuscany, sounds ok I would hope it is better than Rome. I just back from a quick holiday and it strikes me the Romans have had the feistiness kicked out of them and replaced with a sense of resignation over things like public services. Like they used to say at least Mussolini made the trains run on time!
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Post by Blackjack » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:54 am

Good to hear from you Nummy! Post a link for your book when it’s available. Hopefully we’ll see you back on Ops when you settle in Tuscany.
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Post by Nummy » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:21 pm

Thanks chaps:
It's an exciting if excruciating time waiting for the verdict.
For the first time in my life, I have absolutely no say in the direction of my life.
It's Destiny's Toggle. Either on or off.

Ops. I'd love to get back on.
I've been practicing with the 109G mostly, but with my
wanderings it's difficult to keep any kind of schedule.
With the two Spits and the Bodenplatte plane set it's
more enticing than ever.

Will post any news of the novel as it becomes available.
In the meantime 'Good Hunting' and see you in the blue someday.
Cheers, Nummy
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Vincent "Jimmy" Sheean, American journalist, watching a dogfight over Dover, August 1940.

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Post by Sparky » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:16 pm

Hi Nummy,

I'm glad there's another novelist. I'm on my 17th revision of my first (completed) novel. The story just seemed to flow from The Muse or somewhere. I was surprised at how it unfolded. It's fun, isn't it?

I hope to fly with you. I have a house in NW France so we'll be advance party for 1943 and 44 Italian and France campaigns.
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Post by Nummy » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:48 pm

Sparky, you mean the TPs are top heavy with two novelists?
With a house in NW France?--impressive. Normandy, any chance? I've been across and around France about six times I think.
I have a friend with a villa in Montecchio, (not Montevecchio as Google will try to lead you to) Italy, near Orvieto, between Rome and Florence.
Hoped to be there by now but family Christmas in Texas stoppered that for a while.

My experience with 'The Imago' is just as you say, "it flowed" from somewhere.
184,000 words--two regular novels--as the Duke of Gloucester said of his gift copy of Gibbon's 'The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire' . . .
"another damned thick, square book, eh, Mr. Gibbons . . '
Or something like that.

You will be revising your novel until the printer jerks the MS from your hands and refuses to give it back.
I found the hardest thing for we aspiring types is getting someone knowledgeable to read the MS.
Once you have your book in finest form, and if you need a reader who understands the issues
we go through--waiting is the worst, (it's tantamount to cruelty to dumb animals I think)--
then I will be glad to read and share ideas with you.
In the meantime, keep the faith . . . . it's worth the effort.
Cheers, Nummy
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Vincent "Jimmy" Sheean, American journalist, watching a dogfight over Dover, August 1940.

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Post by Sparky » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:42 am

Nummy,

My house is in little Champéon in Mayenne Department about 66 road miles [almost due] south of Caen. So I'm just south of Normandy in the end of the bocage country and just east of Brittany with the advantages of both areas and no tourists.

Yes, "A novel is never finished, only abandoned," as someone said.
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Post by Fritz » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:20 am

Sparky wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:16 pm
I'm on my 17th revision of my first (completed) novel...
Indeed. I might have to chat a bit with you and Nummy sometime, Sparky. You guys aren't the only writers in these here parts. Revision has been my bane.
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Post by Nummy » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:47 pm

Fritz, you mean there's another writer in the TP closet?
Yes, revision is the bane.
Yes, it is also the balm.

To give an idea of the time frame for the submission process these days,
I sent 3 chapters and a query off to Penguin/Random House on January 11, 2017.
The request for full MS came on September 27, 2017--nine months later, and over a year ago.
Been so long I'd forgotten I'd done it.
My editor had emergency detached retina surgery in January last.
My MS 'got lost in the Black hole that followed' he apologized.
I resent in March this year.
Hearing nothing, in late October--a month ago-- I wrote a NastyGram saying
I needed a communication.
Got it That's how I found out my book passed First Reader and was with Second reader.
Whoever they are.
I guess what I am saying here is that the vast and annoying time frame
made Imago a better book. There were rough places. There were places needing
augmentation and some needing the toss.
But do not abandon . . . never.
Finish it and send it off.

Sparky, I shall look up your French residence.
I lived in Brittany, near Pontivy, the autumn of 2011 in an old 'maison d' pierre'.

In the meantime, it's good to be in touch with fellow pen wigglers
who also share an appetite for vintage warplanes.

Fritz and Sparky, say the word and I'll PM you my email addy
as a place to start for us 'Inklings'
(A term I just discovered, a sort of informal literary group that meets
informally in pubs. Started in Oxford I think and reading bad poetry was
a standard evenings entertainment.)

Cheers, Nummy
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Vincent "Jimmy" Sheean, American journalist, watching a dogfight over Dover, August 1940.

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Post by Sparky » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:00 pm

PM away, kind sir, and I shall tell you about the non-fiction project I'm ignoring that I actually had agents of two good houses ask me to "Send me that book."

I haven't tried to publish my first completed novel. Most first novels aren't fit to line the bottom of a birdcage. After 17 revisions I hope to make mine good enough to grace the bottom of someone's budgie cage some day. I can dream.
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Post by Nummy » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:39 pm

Sparky check PMs for email addy.

Novels are the antithesis of Instant Gratification.
May be no gratification at all, except the process of creating them.
Imago is about my 4th one, and the only one I seriously sought a publisher for.
There's a strange learning curve to it--you struggle along for what seems forever.
Then one day, it all clicks--you understand what's happening.
What made this one different is I stopped thinking about the 'market'.
I wrote it for myself alone--pulled out the stops and let it rip.
We shall see where it goes.

Cheers, Nummy
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Vincent "Jimmy" Sheean, American journalist, watching a dogfight over Dover, August 1940.

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